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Koren of Darkwood · May 07, 2006, 04:55 PM // 16:55

I have a L20 N/R that's gone up against the Doppleganger several times now - and lost. I have one healing skill among various pointless skills that involve a health sacrifice (sacrifice so much health to heal minions, etc).

She fights with a bow. I, obviously, have one as well - but the damage on my staff is less and therefore using my own bow has been better. Still, I've lost even with my marksmanship attribute maxed.

Anyone have any tips that might help? Any skills she won't use?

Thanks in advance.

Djvandal · May 07, 2006, 05:48 PM // 17:48

Well wrong forum i think

but......

I have fought the doppleganger for 4 characters

2 w/mo's 3 seconds each
1 necro/mo 14 seconds
1 monk/mes 38 seconds (could probly get tiem down if i tweeked it)

Ill try to give you my basic strategy and you may have to go get some more skills
First thing first there are some things about the dopple you should know
He is an exact duplicate of you and yoru skill bar

Second he will try to cast any and all buffs on homself you have in the skill bar (this can be used either to get him to cast nedless long casting buffs leavign you a large window were his dmg output is 0 and you hammer on him
or put buffs that are counterproductive for this situation example there is a skill in the mnk tree i used that makes them deal less dmg but get healed for more when healed

3rd if you bring a healing skill he will heal i never take any healing skill with me to fight it just slows things down

4th and final any buffs you need to cast cast them right before you step on the third stone and you will pop up ready to fight fully buffed after the cutscene

basically i pick 1 hi dmg skill this is what im gonna use to kill the dopple only 1
on my warriors i took a stance as well for for higher speed output and so the dopple takes more dmg (frenzy)

Now for you specificaly i woudl say play hard to your necro side i would find one dmg skill the one that causes degen for him and regen for you (aslong as you keep this on him at all times it should cancel each other out but im assumeing there will be times he doesnt reaplie to you before it expires giving a small edge

next i would load alot of sac skills into my bar such as the one that heals minions (youll have to forgive me i havent played my necro in weeks and spell names are gone form my mind)

its early here lol if you have any other questions post here i will do my best to answer

xxSilhouette · May 07, 2006, 07:56 PM // 19:56

Not many people do this...But what i did with 3 of my characters was went out there without any skills at all - since you have a N/R, i would suggest using a max damage bow, and be sure to have some kind of health rune on your armor - and go out there without any skills and just attack.

I didn't get it the first time trying that though, but i did my second - So if nothing else you could try that.

NIL8 · May 08, 2006, 07:18 AM // 07:18

First time I did it with my necro, I equipped spells that sacrifice health and cause conditions like bleeding.

In later tries, I hit the bad guy with spiteful spirit and used defensive ranger skills like whirling defense.

GL!

ShadowStorm · May 08, 2006, 07:47 AM // 07:47

Ok, here's a really really really easy way to kill the doppelganger with a ranger. In fact, you probably won't even take damage during the entire fight.

Bring 7 Nature Rituals and a single bow attack. The Doppelganger will cast all 7 rituals before attacking you. You should be able to kill him before he gets the 4th or 5th one off.

Kamatsu · May 08, 2006, 09:35 AM // 09:35

Next time, please read the stickies.

Sticky -> http://www.guildwarsguru.com/forum/s...d.php?t=107306

Why? Because it link's to a nice, big thread dedicated to how to beat the doppleganger with various builds, strats, profession's, etc.

http://www.guildwarsguru.com/forum/s...ad.php?t=27576

Thread Closed.

May 07, 2006, 04:55 PM // 16:55	#1
Koren of Darkwood Ascalonian Squire Join Date: May 2006 Location: New Hampshire Guild: Order of Bahamut Profession: N/Mo	Ascending tips? I have a L20 N/R that's gone up against the Doppleganger several times now - and lost. I have one healing skill among various pointless skills that involve a health sacrifice (sacrifice so much health to heal minions, etc). She fights with a bow. I, obviously, have one as well - but the damage on my staff is less and therefore using my own bow has been better. Still, I've lost even with my marksmanship attribute maxed. Anyone have any tips that might help? Any skills she won't use? Thanks in advance.

May 07, 2006, 05:48 PM // 17:48	#2
Djvandal Academy Page Join Date: Apr 2006 Location: Canada Guild: [KING] Profession: W/	Well wrong forum i think but...... I have fought the doppleganger for 4 characters 2 w/mo's 3 seconds each 1 necro/mo 14 seconds 1 monk/mes 38 seconds (could probly get tiem down if i tweeked it) Ill try to give you my basic strategy and you may have to go get some more skills First thing first there are some things about the dopple you should know He is an exact duplicate of you and yoru skill bar Second he will try to cast any and all buffs on homself you have in the skill bar (this can be used either to get him to cast nedless long casting buffs leavign you a large window were his dmg output is 0 and you hammer on him or put buffs that are counterproductive for this situation example there is a skill in the mnk tree i used that makes them deal less dmg but get healed for more when healed 3rd if you bring a healing skill he will heal i never take any healing skill with me to fight it just slows things down 4th and final any buffs you need to cast cast them right before you step on the third stone and you will pop up ready to fight fully buffed after the cutscene basically i pick 1 hi dmg skill this is what im gonna use to kill the dopple only 1 on my warriors i took a stance as well for for higher speed output and so the dopple takes more dmg (frenzy) Now for you specificaly i woudl say play hard to your necro side i would find one dmg skill the one that causes degen for him and regen for you (aslong as you keep this on him at all times it should cancel each other out but im assumeing there will be times he doesnt reaplie to you before it expires giving a small edge next i would load alot of sac skills into my bar such as the one that heals minions (youll have to forgive me i havent played my necro in weeks and spell names are gone form my mind) its early here lol if you have any other questions post here i will do my best to answer

May 07, 2006, 07:56 PM // 19:56	#3
xxSilhouette Desert Nomad Join Date: Jan 2006 Location: Lost in the sands of time... Guild: Blood Of Orr [BoO] Profession: R/Rt	Not many people do this...But what i did with 3 of my characters was went out there without any skills at all - since you have a N/R, i would suggest using a max damage bow, and be sure to have some kind of health rune on your armor - and go out there without any skills and just attack. I didn't get it the first time trying that though, but i did my second - So if nothing else you could try that.

May 08, 2006, 07:18 AM // 07:18	#4
NIL8 Pre-Searing Cadet Join Date: Feb 2006	First time I did it with my necro, I equipped spells that sacrifice health and cause conditions like bleeding. In later tries, I hit the bad guy with spiteful spirit and used defensive ranger skills like whirling defense. GL!

May 08, 2006, 07:47 AM // 07:47	#5
ShadowStorm Wilds Pathfinder Join Date: May 2005 Location: Take me where I cannot stand. Guild: The Better Part of Valor Profession: W/N	Ok, here's a really really really easy way to kill the doppelganger with a ranger. In fact, you probably won't even take damage during the entire fight. Bring 7 Nature Rituals and a single bow attack. The Doppelganger will cast all 7 rituals before attacking you. You should be able to kill him before he gets the 4th or 5th one off.

May 08, 2006, 09:35 AM // 09:35	#6
Kamatsu Moderator Join Date: May 2005 Location: Australia	Next time, please read the stickies. Sticky -> http://www.guildwarsguru.com/forum/s...d.php?t=107306 Why? Because it link's to a nice, big thread dedicated to how to beat the doppleganger with various builds, strats, profession's, etc. http://www.guildwarsguru.com/forum/s...ad.php?t=27576 Thread Closed.